University student comes under fire for video clip

[Marlene]

i went through the clip wen it fist came out..i thought it was a nice clip n seriously, i can feel his patritism as well... tis is a free country, as long as u dun kill ppl or rob or do anythin against the law, it is not wrong and we should hav freedom to voice ourselves...why the chinese politician complain abt it??? unless wat he said inside the clip is true to some ppl (eg abt the policemen n gov ppl) then mayb tats why they so angry, because ppl r speakin abt the truth abt them!!! if we hav to hide and pretend and be afraid of politicians, then we r nothing to tis country. we choose them..not they choose themselves... tis is a democratic country and we r malaysian, n malaysia is us. why do we hav to be angry or go berserk over a song tat actrually improve our tourism n talks abt our culture n food? the only bad part is the truth abt our laziness n some corrupted department.,..every country has it...wat is the problem? i even thought he sung the negaraku song damn nice!!! imagine overseas ppl listening to the song n enjoyin it..perhaps we should learn from the song n improve ourselves..instead of mocking the song, just bcos we felt the truth abt it n we dun wan ppl to knw...thank god the police cant do anythin, bcos if they goin to sue him or put him in court for tat, i m going to defend him...imagine how the world look at us wen we put someone like him into jail for a funny reason like tat??? i tink the world gonna laugh at us. come on..i knw some sensitive ppl gonna feel a bit unhappy as he used the negaraku song, but then again, if we open ourselves up n open our mind, i tink there is more to the song than jus critics etc. i actually though the song really do represent malaysua...at least he did not made up lies n so on...who would be so "free" to create a song for malaysia for national day?
i would n i'm glad someone feel the same way too!
i tink he is brave as he put out his face in the clip...imagine those ppl who made fun of their presidents (esp george bush) and they dun even dare to show who they r (the culprits). this man dare to show "i'm the one who did this" and i'm sure he never expect any harm or expect such reactions from us.
btw if its not a nice clip worth listenin to, then why ppl kept forwadin and spreadin the clip? we hav a rigt to slietn, to watch n to know...jus bcos some politicians r pissed off abt it, doesnt mean we as malaysian citizen cant choose wat we wan to do!!!
sometimes i felt politicians r jus sooo fake n try to hide the reality from us..the so-called naive ppl...watever
sorry if watever i said doesnt sound right to some of you...i mean no harm, i dun insult nobody, n i jus speak my mind..we need to stop pretending and faking sometimes.thanks for listening though ^_^

[isoundstream]

that is f*cking true!! i support u!!

[Marlene]

ladybird, queblur, key..totally agree wit u guys
to iweed...i had nothing against you..i knw how u feel...everyone hav different way of thinking and different way os seeing somethin..beauty is in the eye of the beholder..so i knw tat u do love ur country n u felt hurt by wat the kid has done

but then again, he did not MOCK the national anthem!! he did not change the lyrics or add anythin into the lyrics...in my opinion..he sang it proud n better than i've heard....wen i saw the clip, i smile, laugh, cry, and angry...he did nothing wrong cos he speaks the truth... its like LIFE...LIFE has good n bad, happy n sad, right n wrong...nothing in this world is perfect..including us and our country...but he did not mock the national anthem or said anythin bad abt it...its totally two parts of the songs...why cant we be open and see the other way of it instead of looking one way?
come on..if tat kid really over did it..u tink our country wont prosecute him?police wont catch him? najib is a clever guy...if he wanna make tat kid suffer n go thru court n jail, he can, piece of cake...but he didnt, basically bcos he knw thr's nth wrong wit it!!!
to the silly politicians (especially chinese politicians who r complaining, as if to be on the other politicians side) i tink u r so so fake..come on..there';s more issues in this country that we need to settle...instead of gettin depress n complaining abt some vidoe clip on youtube laaa...
if like tat ah..next time chinese n other races in malaysia gonna be cowards cos we r so afraid to voice our view...
if u dun like somethin u see or hear..then dun see...dun hear..then it wont hurt...
i m aptriotic.. my verdict is..that guy is patriotic too...i'm sure no matter how many times i sing negaraku, i wont be able to express that kind of "patritiotic" expression the guy had wen he sing the song...for tat..i salute him..cos it touched my heart..who gives a damn if he did it for fame or watever...i like it, i'm happy...
why cant u be happy? its a good feeling!!!

[Geekguy]

in thailand, a foreigner get jailed for accidentally insult their king.

The kid was born, raised, breed locally, obviously he would know what is wrong with this country more so than the foreigner.

in this case, this kid has misused the national anthem itself and legally he can be charged under:

I'll stick to worrying about the safety of my home over a kid on a youtube doing a rendition of the national anthem.

no matter how, he uphold his national integrity. we do not need such outright complete monkeys.

Yet we let some monkeys running this country. For a kid to be in Taiwan, learning & studying hardly qualifies him as a monkey.

STRIP his nationality!

Is that your the best solution to the REAL problem?

[relaxjack]

Seriously, after going through the clips a few times i still could not find any elements of insult to the national anthem as alleged by our ministers. But then again, it is a common tactic used by our ruling politicians to silence its critics with allegation of insulting religion, King, race, sedition, OSA, etc etc. What i'm really interested to know is their opinion on the problems that was put forth in the song eg. Police+Kopi and our inefficient civil service.

[iweed]

The kid was born, raised, breed locally, obviously he would know what is wrong with this country more so than the foreigner.

the song title itself named negara kuku, which i believe means a penis or something like that. negara lanc*u? isnt that an insult?

I'll stick to worrying about the safety of my home over a kid on a youtube doing a rendition of the national anthem.

try to look on the comments made in youtube. this kind of video have the ability to make chaos anytime anywhere. maybe not in some country, but to a multi racial country like malaysia, it is gonna.

Yet we let some monkeys running this country. For a kid to be in Taiwan, learning & studying hardly qualifies him as a monkey.

Is that your the best solution to the REAL problem?

let just dont turn this thread to like those in youtube. that kid made big mistake that can turn this country to war zone. enough said.

and to marlene,
i never say i dont agree of what he's saying in the video. most of it i agree are true facts. maybe some part of the song is kinda an insult to me. try to look at those comments in his youtube. do u want that to happen in reality? no intention to deny his freedom of speech. but freedom of speech are only for those who are intelligent, mature and willing to bear responsibility to what is said. freedom of speech does not come with the freedom to insult without consequences

back to the national anthem issue. why must using NATIONAL ANTHEM to express his creativity out? ini lagu kebangsaan, sayang. he made a mistake there. before this he also made some other song, that hentam government, etc. no problem. but when he use the national anthem, he difinitely crossed the line.

[iweed]

Seriously, after going through the clips a few times i still could not find any elements of insult to the national anthem as alleged by our ministers. But then again, it is a common tactic used by our ruling politicians to silence its critics with allegation of insulting religion, King, race, sedition, OSA, etc etc. What i'm really interested to know is their opinion on the problems that was put forth in the song eg. Police+Kopi and our inefficient civil service.

dear my ex school mate,
yes there is, i already post some part of the song which is clearly an insult to me (at least to me, dont know the others). does he really need to include that part in his song, with the national anthem as the background music? i agree with all those complaints about govermenet, police, malay quota, etc. just not that azan part.

[relaxjack]

I was talking about elements in the song which is insulting to the national anthem as alleged by our ministers. Not about any individual. Some people might find it offensive, some might not. Take the allegation of duit kopi for example. Our IGP might strongly disagree with it and felt it is an insult to the police force but folks on the street would think otherwise. It very depends on ones point of view but it certainly doesn't warrant a person to put a bullet in others head. If he has indeed insulted the national anthem, the relevant ministers should clearly point out the particular section of our law the singer has flouted.

[Geekguy]

the song title itself named negara kuku, which i believe means a penis or something like that. negara lanc*u? isnt that an insult?

How do you know it meant "penis" and not "cuckoo" (going nuts)? Kuku can also mean "no brain". Had he wanted to say "penis" he would have used "lanc*u".

try to look on the comments made in youtube. this kind of video have the ability to make chaos anytime anywhere. maybe not in some country, but to a multi racial country like malaysia, it is gonna.

let just dont turn this thread to like those in youtube. that kid made big mistake that can turn this country to war zone. enough said.

Good heavens!

If a country can be brought down by a mere comments from youtube videos I really REALLY have to question our country's integrity.

[ian]

that kid made big mistake that can turn this country to war zone. enough said.

I agree with iWeed about the war zone thing. Malaysians don't take petty insults very well and usually it escalates. By my guesstimate, over 30% Malaysians (regardless what race, color, political preference, zodiac sign, animal year, favorite foods, sexual preference etc. ) do it and can't even take an insult decently. Just take a look at the countless examples we have in Miri alone, like the expatriate vs. local gangster road rage. Simple "finger pointing" results in car chase, hit and run, car bashing etc.

But remember, the kid did some damages, but it's isolated to political and beliefs, it is minor when compared to the extent of the damaging of reputation to the country by the countless tourist robbery, rape, murder, international high profile murder, corruption, gangsterism, mafia syndicates, piracy, human trafficking, drug abuse, unethical business monopolization and environmental disasters.

So before this little issue escalates, remember; in the end it's a Youtube video with some possible insults. Nothing more.

[Marlene]

like i said..everyone take it differently...talkin abt chaos, i tink malaysia has come to an era whr ppl dun really take things in an uncivilized way anymore..we r not living in year 1963...if chaos gonna happen, it would hav happen long ago..well 400,000 ppl hav seen it long ago...n apart from critics n complain, thr's no chaos. bcos we r civilized ppl, if we dun like it..we write n voice our comments...or tell the newspaper etc..we dun do bombin or assasination as such anymore. basically, that kid is gettin al the blame right? he started it..so now he's gettin all the blames n probs..fair...i dun c malay n chinese or bumi n indian fightin on the street bcos of wat the kid did...
abt the comments on youtube..its normal n natural...everyone has a right to react. and to post such comments after seeing the clip is common..jus like wat we r doin now. relxjack post up a news to share n we voice our opinion. nothing more. we not gonna kill ladybird..relaxjack or anyone else bcos we dun agree wit each other. cos we knw its not worth it n its not THAT serious...unless relaxjack ate my ice cream...(I"S SOOOO GONNA KILL YOU!!!) jus jk...
at least a newspaper report has been done..n everyone knw abt it...n basically the gov n police has clarify that they cant do anythin now...so sooner or later, the issue will go away.i belive the kid n their family has been criticised n suffered in a way that the listener who dislike the clip would be satisfied..
n yes the kid may did some damages..but i believe he made some changes too...after watchin the clip, my little teenage bro n his frens can sing negaraku in full lyrics!!! @_@
from the clip...let us learn to put the bad things aside and learn the good ones...

[Marlene]

"but freedom of speech are only for those who are intelligent, mature and willing to bear responsibility to what is said. freedom of speech does not come with the freedom to insult without consequences"

aiyo...dun tel me ur sayin the kid is stupid..tat is sooo mean laa...he did apologise n remove the clip n take responsibility wat...n thr's no definite definition of freedom of speech...and like wat everyone been tryin to say here, everyone see things differently.no matter how nice a person try to express somethin, other ppl may take it as somethin else (eg as insult) so how can freedom of speech comes without consequences???? everythin we do n say has consequences...that's the fact of life...we all know that
p/s: freedom of speech goes for everyone, even if that person is stupid.tats why its called "FREEDOM". even bill clinton can say stupid things..who gives a damn if he have high IQ and has a degree in watever.

n sayang..i dun mean to fight against u..i jus dun wan u to be angry or pissed off...i mean the kid had a harsh punishment oredy (he intended to do it for national day as a patriotic act n instead gets mocked and criticised by ppl, including his own family...is a very harsh punishment oredy u knw..can u imagine the treatment n judgement he's gonna get from ppl wen he comes bek?). i knw in ur point of view..he deserved it...but in my point of view, he speaks many ppl's mind n i'm sure many ppl would stood up for wat he did as well...not many ppl dare to do wat he did...cos many ppl kiasu...dare to do dun dare to admit...hehe
anyway i'm sure some ppl share the same view as u do..n i hope u guys wont be angry anymore..its not worth the anger..its jus a clip in a tube ^_^ don't worry, be happy!

[QueBlur]

the song title itself named negara kuku, which i believe means a penis or something like that. negara lanc*u? isnt that an insult?

try to look on the comments made in youtube. this kind of video have the ability to make chaos anytime anywhere. maybe not in some country, but to a multi racial country like malaysia, it is gonna.

y do u want to put the "Ku Ku" together. it could simmply mean "Negaraku" "Ku"..my own "Negaraku"...don't twist the fact to make u look good...

i just simply don't understand..all this y we are building an integrated country wil multiracial..we had been boasting on how we malaysian can live together as a different race and yet when a guy is telling the truth to the world about how inequality out society is and thos ppl come out and say this person is try to create disarray int he country...if we believe we can live peacefully in this country, then we must had faith that things like that will not cause much harm to our country. let this be a lesson to those who had been blinded by out government on how good our country are. we are not near to what the first Malaysia government had promise to the ppl and some even say we are getting to far away from it.

this song just prove and shows that there are a lot of ppl that are not satisfied with the government and some of the issue that had been left unattended my the authority for years and those issues are getting worst. to improve is to face the problem. remember, when u point a finger at a person, u are pointing 4 fingers (or a thumb) at yourself.

[isoundstream]

that is the problem with the malangsial GAMEN...cannot take the fact...always want they correct...never gonna admit when they do wrong....face the fact meresian ppl!

[ian]

Topic is degrading. Please write your post properly with respect.

[iweed]

this is not about covering up anything. this is all about keeping this country live in peace. such video is very sensitive to our multiracial country. malaysians is just not ready for that. maybe we are, maybe some are not. tenque for your time. peace.